Poor old Spider. He left St Kilda and if they had a half decent ruckman, they might have one a flag by now. By leaving Hawthorn he might do the same to them.
So he should stick it out with the Hawks.
As much as Sydney are a current power in the league, this can change quite quickly over a year or two (see Port Adelaide, Brisbane, Essendon). He may find if Sydney doesn't win in 2007 with him, that may be his last chance.
Hawthorn are a young team with some potential superstars amongst their list. They could potentially be contenders within 3 years. And I'm sure they'd like to have a run at it before Crawford and Spider retire.
Should spider leave hawthorn to cahse a flag in sydney or stay with the mighty hawkers?
stay with the hawkers, sydney are poo
Reply:he's a great player, he deserves at least one premiership before the end of his career, But it would be nice if it was going to be at a better team.
Reply:frefr4ewgr4eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
Reply:It would be nice if he could get a flag but I think that time is running out for him. When he finishes playing he will have a record of sorts as the player who has played on the team that has lose most games, I think that I heard that last year on the footy show.
Saturday, November 14, 2009
Does the hawthorn (Crataegus monogyna) grow quickly?
Yes it is quite fast growing,approx 45cm p.a.
Does the hawthorn (Crataegus monogyna) grow quickly?
Yes! As long as you prepare the ground well and prevent competition from weeds and other plants, especially when the hawthorns are young.
We planted 2 year old plants, whips, about 5 inches apart; well now 6 years later they would be at least 8 feet high if not kept cut back! And that was after cutting them down on planting, to make them bushy.
Brilliant trees, they are native, have attractive foliage, flowers are pretty and great for bees %26amp; other insects, berries pretty and good for the birds. 10 out of 10!!!
Reply:Yes it is also known as quick thorn.
Reply:Yes.
It slows down as it gets older, but to begin with it fairly romps away.
Reply:It grows approx 45cm per year.
Reply:The whips will take about 2 years to get establilshed without too much growth, then in year 3 they will romp away and grow 40-50cm a year. :-)
Does the hawthorn (Crataegus monogyna) grow quickly?
Yes! As long as you prepare the ground well and prevent competition from weeds and other plants, especially when the hawthorns are young.
We planted 2 year old plants, whips, about 5 inches apart; well now 6 years later they would be at least 8 feet high if not kept cut back! And that was after cutting them down on planting, to make them bushy.
Brilliant trees, they are native, have attractive foliage, flowers are pretty and great for bees %26amp; other insects, berries pretty and good for the birds. 10 out of 10!!!
Reply:Yes it is also known as quick thorn.
Reply:Yes.
It slows down as it gets older, but to begin with it fairly romps away.
Reply:It grows approx 45cm per year.
Reply:The whips will take about 2 years to get establilshed without too much growth, then in year 3 they will romp away and grow 40-50cm a year. :-)
When was the last time Hawthorn won the wooden spoon?
twas the year before th '66th
When was the last time Hawthorn won the wooden spoon?
1963
Edit - it was 65. My Hawks mate gave me the wrong info, the useless bastard!
Reply:1965 Hawthorn, 1963 Fitzroy.
Reply:1965
Reply:1965 but they also won it in 1953,1950 and 1949 so they have won it quite a few times
Reply:not sure on this one, so i'll just say a long time ago, been good for a long time.
if richo is correct, thats a big fall as they won the flag in 1961, pretty sure about that, ywo years later, on the bottom, jeez.
When was the last time Hawthorn won the wooden spoon?
1963
Edit - it was 65. My Hawks mate gave me the wrong info, the useless bastard!
Reply:1965 Hawthorn, 1963 Fitzroy.
Reply:1965
Reply:1965 but they also won it in 1953,1950 and 1949 so they have won it quite a few times
Reply:not sure on this one, so i'll just say a long time ago, been good for a long time.
if richo is correct, thats a big fall as they won the flag in 1961, pretty sure about that, ywo years later, on the bottom, jeez.
Can Hawthorn berry cause negative side affects for Arrhythmia?
Is it safe to take it to cure it?
Can Hawthorn berry cause negative side affects for Arrhythmia?
Be careful; Hawthorn has been known to help angina sufferers as it widens the arteries but it is abit iffy for arrhythmia. Ask your doctor first; if you need medication it is best to get something prescribed.
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Can Hawthorn berry cause negative side affects for Arrhythmia?
Be careful; Hawthorn has been known to help angina sufferers as it widens the arteries but it is abit iffy for arrhythmia. Ask your doctor first; if you need medication it is best to get something prescribed.
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Does Hawthorn Berry Work at Lowering Blood Pressure?
I was wondering if anyone's had success with Hawthorn Berry supplements in lowering their blood pressure.
Does Hawthorn Berry Work at Lowering Blood Pressure?
Mike - Hawthorn supplements derived from the berries, flowers and leaves have been touted as having cardiovascular benefits since the 1800s, but the data to support these claims are limited to small trials and the results have been pretty lukewarm.
There was a recent British study which examined the blood pressure lowering effects of hawthorn extract in 79 diabetic patients. After 16 weeks, the blood pressure was minimally decreased. The systolic pressure (the top number) was the same in the group taking hawthorn and the group taking placebo. The diastolic pressure (the bottom number) was was 2mmHg lower in the group taking hawthorn. Similar results were seen in another small British study looking at 36 patients with high blood pressure. The systolic blood pressure was not affected, but the diastolic pressure decreased slightly.
More importantly, hawthorn extract while generally safe has some important side effects that you need to be aware of. Some people can have allergies to hawthorn. Large doses in animals have been shown to cause sedation and heart rhythm disturbances. Hawthorn can also have important interactions with other drugs or herbals. If you take Viagra or blood pressure medications, hawthorn may cause a big drop in blood pressure. It can enhance the effects of digoxin leading to heart rhythm disturbances. If you take ANY blood pressure or heart medicines, you should talk to your doctor or pharmacist before taking hawthorn!
Considering how much herbal supplements cost (they are almost never covered by insurance) and how much more effective prescription medications are, it does not seem worthwhile to use Hawthorn to lower your blood pressure. The argument that herbal medications are safer is patently untrue - ANY medication has the potential for side effects (in fact, many of our prescription drugs are derived from herbal sources) and to take something without medical supervision is potentially dangerous.
Good luck to you! Hope that helps!
Does Hawthorn Berry Work at Lowering Blood Pressure?
Mike - Hawthorn supplements derived from the berries, flowers and leaves have been touted as having cardiovascular benefits since the 1800s, but the data to support these claims are limited to small trials and the results have been pretty lukewarm.
There was a recent British study which examined the blood pressure lowering effects of hawthorn extract in 79 diabetic patients. After 16 weeks, the blood pressure was minimally decreased. The systolic pressure (the top number) was the same in the group taking hawthorn and the group taking placebo. The diastolic pressure (the bottom number) was was 2mmHg lower in the group taking hawthorn. Similar results were seen in another small British study looking at 36 patients with high blood pressure. The systolic blood pressure was not affected, but the diastolic pressure decreased slightly.
More importantly, hawthorn extract while generally safe has some important side effects that you need to be aware of. Some people can have allergies to hawthorn. Large doses in animals have been shown to cause sedation and heart rhythm disturbances. Hawthorn can also have important interactions with other drugs or herbals. If you take Viagra or blood pressure medications, hawthorn may cause a big drop in blood pressure. It can enhance the effects of digoxin leading to heart rhythm disturbances. If you take ANY blood pressure or heart medicines, you should talk to your doctor or pharmacist before taking hawthorn!
Considering how much herbal supplements cost (they are almost never covered by insurance) and how much more effective prescription medications are, it does not seem worthwhile to use Hawthorn to lower your blood pressure. The argument that herbal medications are safer is patently untrue - ANY medication has the potential for side effects (in fact, many of our prescription drugs are derived from herbal sources) and to take something without medical supervision is potentially dangerous.
Good luck to you! Hope that helps!
How many people will be at the MCG on Saturday (Hawthorn v Brisbane)?
I am going to the Hawthorn v Brisbane game. Whoever gets the no. of people right and the winning team right gets best answer.
How many people will be at the MCG on Saturday (Hawthorn v Brisbane)?
Well there'll be you + 43,257. Go Hawks.
Reply:52,117
Lions by 8 points.
Reply:28139
Reply:Brisbane will win. 37,980 will attend.
Reply:Hello Josh
i think Brisbane will smash hawthorn on saturday, the winning margin would be 87 points. There will be 46700 people there.
Reply:26,152 Hawthorn fans
9,267 Brisbane fans
Cold, and wet weather football, something that the lions aren't used too
Hawthorn by 21
Reply:Bris 13 pts.
42300
How many people will be at the MCG on Saturday (Hawthorn v Brisbane)?
Well there'll be you + 43,257. Go Hawks.
Reply:52,117
Lions by 8 points.
Reply:28139
Reply:Brisbane will win. 37,980 will attend.
Reply:Hello Josh
i think Brisbane will smash hawthorn on saturday, the winning margin would be 87 points. There will be 46700 people there.
Reply:26,152 Hawthorn fans
9,267 Brisbane fans
Cold, and wet weather football, something that the lions aren't used too
Hawthorn by 21
Reply:Bris 13 pts.
42300
What do you guys think about HAWTHORN?
As in the author?
I personally love his work
What do you guys think about HAWTHORN?
Hawthorn Footy club is awsome.
Buddy Franklin is the best.
The team is'nt as good as it used to be but there still number 1 to me.
Reply:there ok
Reply:i go for them, so of course i like them
at the moment they are oblivously one of the best teams in the AFL, they play great footy and greatest ever playa LANCE FRANKLIN
Reply:They're very good, but Franklin and Hodge were injured they'd be average.
Reply:They haven't played as good as they could with the best forward and a lot of top mid fielders why did they loose that one down in tassie? I know Brisbane nearly beat them I generally don"t watch them hate the colour of there jumper so they still have a bit to prove but Buddy's a legend no doubt
Reply:This very question, what do think about Buddy was asked on SEN AM radio after Buddy had his 9 Goal Haul, in my opinion Buddy is a legend but compare him to the Even Greater (I make it capitals because he is so good) Peter Hudson, who over his whole career averaged 5.59 goals.
(P.s. i am a Melbourne Supporter)
Go Dees,
Reply:sexy boys
i want to have there babys
Reply:I think I am going to lose $20 because I bet they would finish lower on the ladder than the Eagles I may as well pay up now.
Seriously though I like Hawthorn thanks to Platten,Dermie,Dippa and Tuck and Buddy has big shoes to fill when it comes to these players but he is a good player and could become a great player if it doesn't let it go to his head.
Reply:they'd be losing half their games if they didnt have that franklin guy.
Reply:Looks like they are going to the TOP this year !!!!!
Reply:OH GOD DONT GET ME STARTED ON HOW MUCH I LOVE HAWTHORN!
absolte di hard fan
buddy is a ledgend fricking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i also love campbell brown, ohhmyygoodd the most courageous player ever!!!!!
and chance, god its so exciting when he gets teh ball!!!
and hodge!!!!!!! hot and fkn awesome at evrythinggggg!!!!!!!
oh god i cood go on 4 ages!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAWKS4EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
XXXX
ALSO TO ALL THOSE PL WHO SED WE CNAT WIN WITHOUT BUDDY!
yes we fkn can, we have 4 ages b4 he came, we have williams and roucghy who are also good fowards, we have won without franklin, ppl jsut think we cant cos they ahvent seen us without him
Reply:Dnt really have much time for Hawthorn, couldnt care less if they all broke they're legs the only reason i put up with the Hawks is becoz my sisters boyfriend barracks for them. and Buddy is good-looking and thats all i care about him. i would like him a bit more but im sick of everyone talking about him. talk about Dane Swan or Andrew Mackie, Alan Didak or Tarkyn Lockyer for once in your lives.
Reply:I'm very happy with what i've seen from them this year, but it's still only half way through the season. I'm looking forward to seeing how they go this week in Adelaide which will be a real test for them.
Also looking forward to see them in the finals, last years experience will help them greatly. Awesome to see Buddy take the step up this season too.
Reply:I think they are very good team and prob the best this season. But honestly, put any forward in the afl in a team with a great midfield and they'd kick 60 goals easy. If buddy played with a crap midfield we wouldn't be talking about him.
Reply:I think Hawthorn have been going OK at this present time......but they didn't react too good when they were put under close checking pressure in that game in Tas that they lost.
All finals games will be played in that manner. I am not going to go out on a limb %26amp; make wild predictions half way therough the season. They may suffer a bout of injuries....or loss of form....anything can happen.
Reply:honestly there a good team, but they ha vent played Geelong yet, and that will be the biggest challenge for the hawks this year. Geelong are the best team in the comp by a fair margin, and they have the best defense in the league and would be able to stop buddy Franklin any day of the week, last year when they vs geelong, buddy as kept to a goal, and half a dozen possesions by matty scarlett.
P.S go the cats
Reply:They are doing brilliant this season, i wasnt expecting them to do so well. They are a young team and yet play a good team game and the results speak for themselves. Buddy is good but if he kicked a few more straight he'd be better still
Reply:I think they are a chance to win the flag this year and will be a powerful team over the next few years.
Reply:what people don't realise, is that 1 hard knock to his shoulder and buddy is gone, and therefore their forward line, yer they may still have roughead, but buddy is the main bloke down there. and it would be interesting to see how they go withought him. concidering doggies beat them, and they don't have a major goal kicking forward, like buddy, roughead, jonathan brown or a daniel bradshaw.
Reply:Hawthorn are travelling pretty well so far this season, but I think they've got a bit of a way to go.
I honestly don't think they're ready to win a grand final at the moment, and I think if they played in the finals and had a bit of experience, they'd be better off for it in a few years to come and then if they played in a grand final it would make it that much sweeter.
Sorry - that's probably not what you wanted to hear but you have asked the question and I've given you an honest answer.
I certainly do think that Hawthorn have the potential to go all the way and if they keep it up they should win a grand final but I think it might be next year.
Reply:hawthorn is the best team by far
sammy mitchell best captain
we have the best defence with browney,croad and gilham
we have the forward line with buddy.roughie,williams and boyle
two best ruckman in taylor and campbell
and of course the best midfield hodgey,sewell,lewis,bateman,crawford and of course sammy
I personally love his work
What do you guys think about HAWTHORN?
Hawthorn Footy club is awsome.
Buddy Franklin is the best.
The team is'nt as good as it used to be but there still number 1 to me.
Reply:there ok
Reply:i go for them, so of course i like them
at the moment they are oblivously one of the best teams in the AFL, they play great footy and greatest ever playa LANCE FRANKLIN
Reply:They're very good, but Franklin and Hodge were injured they'd be average.
Reply:They haven't played as good as they could with the best forward and a lot of top mid fielders why did they loose that one down in tassie? I know Brisbane nearly beat them I generally don"t watch them hate the colour of there jumper so they still have a bit to prove but Buddy's a legend no doubt
Reply:This very question, what do think about Buddy was asked on SEN AM radio after Buddy had his 9 Goal Haul, in my opinion Buddy is a legend but compare him to the Even Greater (I make it capitals because he is so good) Peter Hudson, who over his whole career averaged 5.59 goals.
(P.s. i am a Melbourne Supporter)
Go Dees,
Reply:sexy boys
i want to have there babys
Reply:I think I am going to lose $20 because I bet they would finish lower on the ladder than the Eagles I may as well pay up now.
Seriously though I like Hawthorn thanks to Platten,Dermie,Dippa and Tuck and Buddy has big shoes to fill when it comes to these players but he is a good player and could become a great player if it doesn't let it go to his head.
Reply:they'd be losing half their games if they didnt have that franklin guy.
Reply:Looks like they are going to the TOP this year !!!!!
Reply:OH GOD DONT GET ME STARTED ON HOW MUCH I LOVE HAWTHORN!
absolte di hard fan
buddy is a ledgend fricking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i also love campbell brown, ohhmyygoodd the most courageous player ever!!!!!
and chance, god its so exciting when he gets teh ball!!!
and hodge!!!!!!! hot and fkn awesome at evrythinggggg!!!!!!!
oh god i cood go on 4 ages!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAWKS4EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
XXXX
ALSO TO ALL THOSE PL WHO SED WE CNAT WIN WITHOUT BUDDY!
yes we fkn can, we have 4 ages b4 he came, we have williams and roucghy who are also good fowards, we have won without franklin, ppl jsut think we cant cos they ahvent seen us without him
Reply:Dnt really have much time for Hawthorn, couldnt care less if they all broke they're legs the only reason i put up with the Hawks is becoz my sisters boyfriend barracks for them. and Buddy is good-looking and thats all i care about him. i would like him a bit more but im sick of everyone talking about him. talk about Dane Swan or Andrew Mackie, Alan Didak or Tarkyn Lockyer for once in your lives.
Reply:I'm very happy with what i've seen from them this year, but it's still only half way through the season. I'm looking forward to seeing how they go this week in Adelaide which will be a real test for them.
Also looking forward to see them in the finals, last years experience will help them greatly. Awesome to see Buddy take the step up this season too.
Reply:I think they are very good team and prob the best this season. But honestly, put any forward in the afl in a team with a great midfield and they'd kick 60 goals easy. If buddy played with a crap midfield we wouldn't be talking about him.
Reply:I think Hawthorn have been going OK at this present time......but they didn't react too good when they were put under close checking pressure in that game in Tas that they lost.
All finals games will be played in that manner. I am not going to go out on a limb %26amp; make wild predictions half way therough the season. They may suffer a bout of injuries....or loss of form....anything can happen.
Reply:honestly there a good team, but they ha vent played Geelong yet, and that will be the biggest challenge for the hawks this year. Geelong are the best team in the comp by a fair margin, and they have the best defense in the league and would be able to stop buddy Franklin any day of the week, last year when they vs geelong, buddy as kept to a goal, and half a dozen possesions by matty scarlett.
P.S go the cats
Reply:They are doing brilliant this season, i wasnt expecting them to do so well. They are a young team and yet play a good team game and the results speak for themselves. Buddy is good but if he kicked a few more straight he'd be better still
Reply:I think they are a chance to win the flag this year and will be a powerful team over the next few years.
Reply:what people don't realise, is that 1 hard knock to his shoulder and buddy is gone, and therefore their forward line, yer they may still have roughead, but buddy is the main bloke down there. and it would be interesting to see how they go withought him. concidering doggies beat them, and they don't have a major goal kicking forward, like buddy, roughead, jonathan brown or a daniel bradshaw.
Reply:Hawthorn are travelling pretty well so far this season, but I think they've got a bit of a way to go.
I honestly don't think they're ready to win a grand final at the moment, and I think if they played in the finals and had a bit of experience, they'd be better off for it in a few years to come and then if they played in a grand final it would make it that much sweeter.
Sorry - that's probably not what you wanted to hear but you have asked the question and I've given you an honest answer.
I certainly do think that Hawthorn have the potential to go all the way and if they keep it up they should win a grand final but I think it might be next year.
Reply:hawthorn is the best team by far
sammy mitchell best captain
we have the best defence with browney,croad and gilham
we have the forward line with buddy.roughie,williams and boyle
two best ruckman in taylor and campbell
and of course the best midfield hodgey,sewell,lewis,bateman,crawford and of course sammy
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